Awards For Top 100 Best Custom Level Developers

[Wardemption]

So yeah,
I have seen that only the top 100 players have awards in their profiles, not the people who are in the top 100 best custom level developers list.

The top 100 awards are gained by the people who only have combat skills, the people who have mapmaking skills are just left with some numbers showing their LDR rank.

Literally, top 100 best custom developers are also the top 100 players of pb2 (if you know what I mean). They should also have an award in their profiles. It makes sh*t fair, amirite?

[monkeyman2535]

You know this game and its website are never going to be updated again, right?

[Wardemption]

You know this game and its website are never going to be updated again, right?

Maybe in PB2.5?

[mrblake213]

Lmao.
Please.

Before you didn't even care about maps or LDr but
When you started begging for rates therefore getting your LDr increased, you now want an award?

As a mapmaker, I somewhat disagree because LDr can be easily obtained by begging for rates.

[Wardemption]

Lmao.
Please.

Before you didn't even care about maps or LDr but
When you started begging for rates therefore getting your LDr increased, you now want an award?

As a mapmaker, I somewhat disagree because LDr can be easily obtained by begging for rates.

You cannot deny the fact you also begged to get into the top 100 best custom level developers list.
Rofl.

And, no, simply no. I am just bringing this idea back, someone stated this like some months ago.

[Terror Only]

unlike the top 100 best players top BCLD is a lot less dynamic.

you can achive 1st place in best players if you work hard, earn PP, waste your life, etc. but you can't achieve 1st place in BCLD because some map maker from 2011 got more votes than any current map maker can gain. that is dumb and nothing can be done about it because this game and it's community is dead. hence why adding awards feature for BCLD is not profitably

plus, it would not give you any goods. it would simply give awards to ancient map makers who either left the game or who don't deserve it because of lack of new maps

[pixelbyte]

As a mapmaker, I somewhat disagree because LDr can be easily obtained by begging for rates.

and ppp can be easily gained by farming or just killing noob players.

[monkeyman2535]

unlike the top 100 best players top BCLD is a lot less dynamic.

you can achive 1st place in best players if you work hard, earn PP, waste your life, etc. but you can't achieve 1st place in BCLD because some map maker from 2011 got more votes than any current map maker can gain. that is dumb and nothing can be done about it because this game and it's community is dead. hence why adding awards feature for BCLD is not profitably

plus, it would not give you any goods. it would simply give awards to ancient map makers who either left the game or who don't deserve it because of lack of new maps

Yeah those map makers from 2011 sure do suck for putting in so much effort and developing so much technical skill and artistry all to help prop up and perpetuate the existence of this dumb dead community

[Roxxar]

Yeah those map makers from 2011 sure do suck for putting in so much effort and developing so much technical skill and artistry all to help prop up and perpetuate the existence of this dumb dead community

I concur - I only got into map-making after asking several of the older players to help me (with which they did [examples being Max teabag, Floss, Stryde, EXCL, Takanuva15, even DoomWrath before he became admin] kindly). Back then, I could have easily said that they deserved the most credit on the website; not only did they create maps for the multiplayer AND custom-singleplayer community to enjoy, but they inspired many people to join them and create more as time went on.

The problem is that the community is essentially dead. Those who still make maps make them for no one but themselves (or so it seems). It was easy to rack up votes back before the community began to decrease in size. Hell, someone as obscure and simple as me easily reached #60 in no time; however, many people find that hard to believe because 1) I have no sort of recognition on my profile about it, 2) I removed a handful of my older maps that had plenty of votes and 3) I no longer make maps, so it's odd seeing someone like me say that I was actually on the top LDR list.

I'm pretty sure Max teabag's name is one of the most easily recognizable and familiar names on this website. It's totally unfair, incorrect, and despicable that people now think he sucks and is a relic of the past. He's STILL on the list, which means he logins at the very least once every 60 days. They are not inactive, and those who build maps enough DESERVE to be on that list. They made the right kind of maps in the right time.

Yes, it sucks that the list is never bound to change drastically within the next few weeks, months, or perhaps even years; however, that doesn't and shouldn't neglect those who are on it. Mapmakers have ALWAYS deserved attention, yet they get none because all people care about is the worth of the map in terms of PP gain, playability, and general appeal.

Also @Terror Only, NOTHING on PB2 gives you any goods. It's a damn online website, people come online for sheer entertainment and wasting time - nothing else. It's not like anything in PB2 rewarded you with anything physical anyway; nonetheless, simply having the recognition of being the "best player" in PB2, a "moderator/admin/staff member" in PB2, or even a "best mapmaker" title in PB2 (in this case) is something people find value and/or happiness in. As with playing to get PP or becoming a mod, you must earn your way up to the title (or cheat into it extremely subtly and successfully) - mapmaking is no different. If both of the former roles in the community have some sort of recognition/official title, why don't mapmakers?

[mrblake213]

There are a lot of map makers who deserved those awards but aren't included in the top 30.

Why do they deserve it?
They have great maps and they don't beg for rates.
It would be unfair for them.

[Roxxar]

There are a lot of map makers who deserved those awards but aren't included in the top 30.

Why do they deserve it?
They have great maps and they don't beg for rates.
It would be unfair for them.

As I've said before, the top of the list are generally all old players. Do people no longer appreciate the maps and, for many people, the help/work they put into making the Level Editor actually usable? I'm almost sure old players did not beg for ratings as much as people do now; back then, the community was actually doing relatively well. Those old mapmakers didn't really NEED to ask for votes as they do now because there weren't as many mapmakers, and there were more people than now.

Also, I think it's only fair to point out that the topic is called "Awards For Top 100." Who's to say the awards just stop with the 30th person? I understand that the "Best Players" (PP) section kinda stops at a certain point (I forgot when, but I know it doesn't celebrate them all), but this award system, if implemented at all, could be different. At that point, it should be relatively easy for those who want the award to at least get some form of recognition; the bottom 20 people (not saying they are the worst mapmakers, just the ones with the least ratings out of the 100) do generally shift around.

Last but not least, this community is essentially dead, like I said. People only beg for rates because there's not as many people to check out maps actively and vote for them. All that's left are the old maps that have TONS of publicity already (such as stryde-sniper, egrw, etc.). It's a snowball effect: the famous maps are the only ones being played and, therefore, voted on. The newer maps are neglected due to the fact that people only see and hear about the famous maps. Furthermore, the famous maps are played even more often. At that point, asking for votes is the only way around to getting a higher LDR if you're not famous already. There's no problem in that, it just sends the wrong message half the time.

Hell, you're IN the top 30, MrBlake. What makes you say that you don't want/deserve the award yourself? Why prohibit other hard-working mapmakers from getting/wanting an award too? I don't think it's fair that you dismiss the top 50ish (who have not changed in a long time; even those who ask and beg for votes could not accomplish the top 50) for the unnoticed and forgotten in a DEAD community. Devil's advocate: the top mapmakers are no longer active. Do they still not deserve ANY sort of recognition anyway?

[lee06400]

This game is too inactive to get enough rates to be in top 40-30 level developers, even if you make very good maps you will have to beg for rates, which shouldn't be encouraged.