how disapproval of stryde-sniper can revive pb2

[Terror Only]

we are used to think that disapproval of stryde-sniper will kill plazma burst 2 completely, but try to think outside the box: what if disapproval of the most and only played map will force players to play other maps?

recall how all of us were looking through dozens of approved maps to find the one we'd like to play. long time ago, in "old pb2"

i wonder why eric keeps approving maps that nobody plays. we've got over 230 approved maps at the moment and the number keeps growing. don't you think that the word "approval" has lost it's value? became depreciated?

[Psykoz]

This isn't the issue.

The issue is the lack of content being added onto the game itself, more updates = more chances of players to stay in the community.

But that's why there's going to be PB2.5, a huge update of PB2 with new features.

How would disapproving one map make a significant change? You're not going to regain back all the players that have left the community, you're not going to increase activity all of a sudden just because 1 map has been disapproved. The remaining players would simply move onto another sniper map like frostbytes and you're back at square 1.

Also your post didn't really substantiate how disapproving a single map can revive PB2, all you did was talk about other players moving onto different maps (Like I said before, they will most likely move onto another sniper map). By doing that, you didn't change anything, only the type of maps the players use. Activity would still be the same.

[lee06400]

People are just going to find another generic sniper map to replace it and it's gonna be the same all the way. Pointless.

[Psykoz]

People are just going to find another generic sniper map to replace it and it's gonna be the same all the way. Pointless.

Yup, like I said in my previous post. Disapproving a map wouldn't do much significant change with PB2's activity in general.

[Green Eyed Demon]

While the map itself is terrible and shouldn't have gotten approved in the first place,I'm pretty sure the map is not related in any way to "reviving" PB2,this game is dead for good

[Roxxar]

I don't understand what this will do. By disapproving one universally-famous, common map, people will look for different maps to play - that is probable. Regardless, how will that revive the PB2 community?

The problem is not that people are bored of PB2, it's that there is virtually no one who actually plays PB2. People from PB2's first few years have moved on, and it is not a matter of boredom or disinterest in maps. Not only is the game still buggy and problematic, but Eric has pretty much completely stopped updating PB2 (for 3 years, give or take some depending on your definition of an update). The last game content addition? 13 July 2013: the rayrifle and the new level developer.

Also, I do agree with you in the fact that newly-approved maps have lost their value; it's almost as if people ask Eric Gurt/whoever is in charge of dealing with maps to simply "look at a map" and approve it. It's almost ridiculous considering how there are map approval guidelines, yet almost all of the maps severely break more than one. However, maps that were approved long ago stood out the most. People didn't simply ask for approval back then, and from what I remember, some mods ACTUALLY looked at them; stryde-sniper is one of these maps.

People hate stryde-sniper because it's the only map that people play; however, punishing the players who enjoy the map will do nothing but drive more players away. You cannot simply force players to look for new ones - they play a map as they so please. If they want to play a new map, let them find it without the removal of stryde-sniper. It's clear that people play stryde-sniper for a REASON; if people hated it so much, then they would not play it. However, they do. Why? Because from my observations, it's still the most fair, compact, and universal map to this day. Back in around 2012, it was approved because it was unique, it was different, and it was fair in terms of mechanics/gameplay. 4 years later, no one thinks so anymore because SO MANY PEOPLE think THEIR sniper maps are better and/or another should deserve the crown-title of "the next sniper map."

Disapproving one map does not sound like a big deal, but it indeed is. Considering the fact that it is the only map with more than 4000 votes (dare I say, the only one with more than 1000 as well), I believe it's fair to say that it is a significant to many people. Removing it will not only affect those who like to play it, but it punishes those who don't/can't find a new map, and those who try to find a familiar map that others will play and like as well.

[darkstar 1]

If I look at the servers I see most of the people play on the unapproved maps, and guess what map isn't unapproved... right, stryde-sniper... So it wil barely change something if it gets unapproved.

[lee06400]

Making people play new approved maps to renew content is a good idea, doing so through disapproving such map isn't a good one. There has to be a way to highlight fresh maps without removing old famous one.

[Star Fox McCloud]

if eric puts doors on stryde sniper or edit it, i wonder if people would get pissed

[guest-electric fish]

good topic terror only. back in 2013 and 2014 the stryde sniper map was one of the fabulous and glorious maps ever because first of all it was unique sniper map with prefect angle and second it was the only sniper map which you could play. unfortunately the approved maps have started to not being played by many players anymore because the lag has ruin many players. Stryde sniper is hated because it is the only map which you can play. By disapproving stryde sniper i think that it will be from one point good because tons of players who bored this map will play other maps but from one point there will not only problem for those who liked this map but there will be a strong fight on which sniper map should be approved. Anyway the point is that even this map is remain approved even it gets unapproved this will not revive plazma burst 2.

[maxim12]

Dont think it would solve anything.

I think the best solution would be wait for Plazma Burst 2.5, and not export any maps from PB2 to PB2.5.

[xChakra]

How about instead of disaprooving overused sniper maps, how about me approve more QUALITY arena maps.

[pixelbyte]

How about instead of disaprooving overused sniper maps, how about me approve more QUALITY arena maps.

Too many maps, more ppl play SS, and ppl hate arena cuz spamspamspam.

[artichokecat]

I do think the value of approved maps has depreciated.
(So much so that even I got an approved map
and unapproved it to save the non-existent integrity of the approved maps list)

But I like stryde-sniper (don't kill me plox)
And also what everyone else says is true:
there are plenty of other sniper maps to replace it now
or it will move to custom :p

Disapproval of stryde-sniper won't revive PB2.
PB2 is pretty ded.

[xChakra]

How about instead of disaprooving overused sniper maps, how about me approve more QUALITY arena maps.

Too many maps, more ppl play SS, and ppl hate arena cuz spamspamspam.

Spam is so easy to get by in arena lolz.

[Dark Reaver]

Disapproving stryde-sniper wouldn't revive PB2, but it would make this game a better place

[Roxxar]

Disapproving stryde-sniper wouldn't revive PB2, but it would make this game a better place

A better place for whom, may I ask?

Does the removal of stryde-sniper instantly encourage players to find new sniper maps? Don't you suppose players play stryde-sniper for a reason? What happens to the players that actually like stryde-sniper?

[MI6 AGENT 007]

I don't like stryde-sniper because every time you kill one person with a sniper they don't die. It should get disapproved.

[Moonhawk]

I don't like stryde-sniper because every time you kill one person with a sniper they don't die. It should get disapproved.

That's because of lag not the map. That happens in any map in the game. Also how can you kill someone without killing them?

On topic,

Whilst I do believe stryde-sniper should be unapproved because of reasons such as incredibly small size, lack of originality and other reasons, simply just unapproving it won't revive a game which is so close to dying. At this point, why should Eric unapprove it, anyway? PB2.5 might be coming out (sooner or later than we believe, though), and Eric shouldn't need to focus on PB2 now that he's actually started it (even if I do believe Eric's decision to kill PB2 for 2.5 was a bad idea, he can't come back to PB2 now).

I think this argument is best left until PB2.5 comes out, and then should be the time we decide.

[tehswordninja]

Whats the point? Sure, I don't like the map.

But how would this 'revive' the community? Removing a map 10 people play? There's zero point in that, and all it will do is just annoy a few people who play it on ranked.