Why do people keep playing garbage?

[Ghost Killer823]

Because garbage is fun for some people and thus becomes their niche when it comes to maps. People often will prefer maps with weapons that have a low TTK to get kills easier and become accustomed to those maps to a point where they refuse to move towards anything else because it's not as easy in other maps.

Nerf the railguns and sniper rifles beyond oblivion and take away their 1HK capabilities and you'll see it have a major impact

Well planned out there for the most part, but the nerf for the the damage for rails and heavy armor-piercing bullets would be too severe, especially since players in the designated maps have such low health to withstand damage. I personally think that this garbage stuff is more skill based than other maps where you cannot just spam fire to easily pin down and annihilate, and the fact that the community has so many skilled players.

[wreak]

I personally think that this garbage stuff is more skill based than other maps where you cannot just spam fire to easily pin down and annihilate, and the fact that the community has so many skilled players.

You would think a rail or sniper map has more skill since you "can't" spam hits but in fact it's almost as bad, or even worse.

You can just simply move around the top of the map (stryde-sniper and eric gurt's rail war), and try pinning down enemies. You will almost always get kills even if you have average aim.

At least in maps where there is mid cover and fast fire weapons. You can just simply take cover or camp to counteract the annoying spammers but there is almost no way to counter a elevation tactic unless you do the same yourself.

To add the frosting to the cake, since some people play these two games so much. They have so much experience and aim on just those 1 or 2 maps giving a extremely unfair advantage, your chances aren't even a roll the dice at this point even if your better than the average player unless you use the exploit.

[Hikarikaze]

Because garbage is fun for some people and thus becomes their niche when it comes to maps. People often will prefer maps with weapons that have a low TTK to get kills easier and become accustomed to those maps to a point where they refuse to move towards anything else because it's not as easy in other maps.

Nerf the railguns and sniper rifles beyond oblivion and take away their 1HK capabilities and you'll see it have a major impact

Well planned out there for the most part, but the nerf for the the damage for rails and heavy armor-piercing bullets would be too severe, especially since players in the designated maps have such low health to withstand damage. I personally think that this garbage stuff is more skill based than other maps where you cannot just spam fire to easily pin down and annihilate, and the fact that the community has so many skilled players.

I'm not suggesting a nerf to either weapons. That last statement was meant to provide a picture that supports my point. Why nerf something that doesn't need it?

It's more skill based simply because the opportunity to spam doesn't exist. A low fire rate and slow reload forces you to carefully manage your shot placement. With arena maps, you simple have to spray and pray with no worries on leading targets as much as you'd need in snipers and railwars. However, the damage capabilities of the railguns and sniper rifle offset that to a point where it barely is an issue. The damage outputs are the only reason people stay on these maps. Like I said, if you drag them down from its 1HK capability, they'll lose its appeal real quick and people will move on to the next map type that's the most similar as a response.

[Ghost Killer823]

A ''two'' shot kill from a ''one'' shot kill is fair enough, that it would not drive that many off the map. It's a possibility to where people will then choose railwars, or any maps that feature lite railguns due to their decent fast reload time, but it's not a certainty, and rails are more effective than bullets basically because they are hitscan-like and bullets are not. I do hate the maps being overplayed as well, it's just that the community is so small when it comes to multiplayer. There are not enough players to make new custom maps that will please the community when it comes to ridding of long-time made approved custom arena maps like stryde-sniper, even the former players who created some good approved maps are gone as of now and moved on.

[Dark Reaver]

It isn't true that snipers require more skill than your classic arena map.

On these arenas, you have to choose which weapon you use in which situation, while you have only one in sniper.
You also have to take the weapons wall-penetration into account, but it doesn't apply for sniper, as all the weapons have the same.

Covers also matter more, since you can easily be killed by some dude spamming the assault rifle; on snipers, you just have to selfboost every 5 seconds and then you're considered a 'pro'.

There are other points in favour of these 'spammy' maps but I think these are more than enough.

[Mirth]

It isn't true that snipers require more skill than your classic arena map.

On these arenas, you have to choose which weapon you use in which situation, while you have only one in sniper.
You also have to take the weapons wall-penetration into account, but it doesn't apply for sniper, as all the weapons have the same.

Covers also matter more, since you can easily be killed by some dude spamming the assault rifle; on snipers, you just have to selfboost every 5 seconds and then you're considered a 'pro'.

There are other points in favour of these 'spammy' maps but I think these are more than enough.

Basically this, I know that most of the snipers/rails players are not exactly good at arenas, which makes them easy meat in other approved maps.

[Hikarikaze]

It isn't true that snipers require more skill than your classic arena map.

On these arenas, you have to choose which weapon you use in which situation, while you have only one in sniper.
You also have to take the weapons wall-penetration into account, but it doesn't apply for sniper, as all the weapons have the same.

Covers also matter more, since you can easily be killed by some dude spamming the assault rifle; on snipers, you just have to selfboost every 5 seconds and then you're considered a 'pro'.

There are other points in favour of these 'spammy' maps but I think these are more than enough.

It depends. In general, arena maps require you to be decent at a much larger skill set than in snipers or rails, which only emphasize a few skills, hence some people being absolutely awful in arena. That's also another reason why some prefer snipers or rails over arena: simplicity and the less amount of effort needed to actually be proficient in these maps. It's easier to pick up the basic skills needed (simply because there's less to learn) and become somewhat decent in snipers than be decent in a much larger array of skills in an arena map.

That doesn't mean arena is worse though; it just requires a lot more practice and skill to get the hang of, which some people don't want to do when they have an easier alternative.

[Duo maxwell]

they hate online game why because the ping limit 989 out of 1200 not playing online games

[Ghost Killer823]

they hate online game why because the ping limit 989 out of 1200 not playing online games

It's certainty not the ping limits as to why these maps are so overplayed.

Play it because it's the one of the CQC maps and bullet spam (one side to another) is severely limited due to slow fire rate/long reload time weapons, but in fact the shots 1-hit kill because of so low health.

Also the sniper's laser gives your position away so it takes skill to get a shot off at an unsuspecting enemy who is already good at the game.

[The Algerian Commander]

Right. These maps are from hundreds of maps are the lone which played as approved ones.

To be honest to stryde. I really enjoy his maps. but they make me feel boring. I'm always playing them and I wounder, What is the special and unique thing in this map ? too small and too rough.

same to all of other maps. eric must approve more maps in my opinion.

[Prothean]

I don't really think there's a lot of players who know about other approved maps, besides the ones played constantly. Even if a lot more maps gets approved, I don't think they'd be known enough for players to start using them like they do with Stryde-sniper and egrw1.

[Mirth]

Considering the great amount of maps that are approved, I would suggest an update, meaning that some of them that do not meet enough requirements get unapproved or tweaked. Once this is done I would say adding random maps for ranked would be a good idea, it would completely depend on what maps are displayed each day and not on the person who creates the map, making things somewhat fair since normally the person who creates the match picks his/her favourite map, in order to get the most advantage out of it.

[lee06400]

A point has been made, some old approved maps do not reach the high quality standard for approvement anymore, there should be something made about the majority of approved map who needs actual skills but aren't played that much.

[Riften]

Speaks for itself.

All approved maps I see are either:

1) Stryde-sniper
2) Eric Gurt-railwars1

There's nothing that would make these maps better than masterpieces like Cahir-sci_fi; Cahir-Area_51 or monkeyman2535-salvation yet these are preferred by the majority.

Why is that?

One man's trash is another man's treasure.

[Garuda 1]

because people like garbage

Please try to make your post more detailed and of higher quality.

Edit:
To the two post below, fair enough. I can agree with that.

[lee06400]

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One man's trash is another man's treasure.

Please try to make your post more detailed and of higher quality.

Tbh, his post had high quality than most of those in this topic, he was implying that even if in his opinion these maps are garbage, some people can still appreciate them as good ones.

[wreak]

because people like garbage

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One man's trash is another man's treasure.

Please try to make your post more detailed and of higher quality.

The post has really good quality compared to some of posts I made here. (Including this one)

[saw-]

Other maps are spammy as hell with ONLY 130 HP?? WTF? ALIEN SHOTGUN 1 shots you -_- at least 250 hp ffs.
X death-realwar shouldnt be approved in the first place.

[Buzzard 1]

Speaks for itself.

There's nothing that would make these maps better than masterpieces like Cahir-sci_fi; Cahir-Area_51 or monkeyman2535-salvation yet these are preferred by the majority.

Why is that?

No one plays Cahir-Area_51 and Monkeyman2535-salvation for the two reasons of each.
Cahir-Area_51

-People always camped at the teleporters and continued to spam and go back in forth numerous times.

-Map was edited by a former staff member (Who I think was an Admin before DoomWrath, not sure) to try to prevent constant teleport camping which failed.

Monkeyman2535-salvation

-Map was heavily farmed constantly like iJer-Sector.

-IIRC Monkey continued to rename the map which one was inappropriate and later it got unapproved by a staff member because of it.

[Silent Aurora]

It isn't true that snipers require more skill than your classic arena map.

On these arenas, you have to choose which weapon you use in which situation, while you have only one in sniper.
You also have to take the weapons wall-penetration into account, but it doesn't apply for sniper, as all the weapons have the same.

Covers also matter more, since you can easily be killed by some dude spamming the assault rifle; on snipers, you just have to selfboost every 5 seconds and then you're considered a 'pro'.

There are other points in favour of these 'spammy' maps but I think these are more than enough.

^^^^

stryde-sniper/egrw1 tryhards only argument about arena maps is "all you do is spam" lmfao, dark speaks the truth.

The reason why I prefer arena than those two is because of the flexibility, I can play around with more guns and you can create combos, like shotgun + rail + pistol for example.

So much more fun than playing in some tight-ass map where you just get people sb left and right and spamming grenades as soon as they spawn