Stealing maps?

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Stealing maps?

Postby phsc » 16 September 2018, 15:33

well, take a look



the first one is the ultra popular paul308-base, a base map which isnt original, but still is kinda unique with its features, its a bad map tho, but really popular for kids

the second one is kubakuba-base_1
its pretty obvious its a copy, it has a few additional features, buts just like a copy, if you dont believe me play it
and then I ask
is this ethical? moral? should staff let this happen? map steaing has been a thing forever, mostly with open source maps, xnx-school is prob the biggest example of this

personally i think these maps should be deleted and the user should be banned for like, 1 copy = 1 week, 2 copies = 1 month, 3 copies = 6 months, 4 copies = 1 year, 5 copies = perma

like exact copies, not taking a map and changing its purpose, ex: a zombie defense in paul308 base would be original, but just another base map using all of its features... thats a copy
and copying features is a common thing that isnt going away and shouldnt cuz it evolved the average quality of maps

so whats ur opinion on this?

EDIT: just look, kubakubas map is taking on the original, think of this as someone making an exact copy of max teabag-gunshop back in 2011 and making it more popular
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Re: Stealing maps?

Postby eru_ » 16 September 2018, 16:34

Ofc people will keep copyng good maps with less effort to get some attention
Well i wish if every copied map get reproted by a user and staff willl take it down
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Re: Stealing maps?

Postby Hikarikaze » 16 September 2018, 18:16

This is why the original mapmaker needs to be credited on every copy if the copy was made from the original map's source. Plus you'd need to specifically define copying aside from the obvious examples of copying. Having a map that's a copy but also has additional features isn't really a copy exactly in that it's a 1:1 recreation

eru_ wrote:Ofc people will keep copyng good maps with less effort to get some attention
Well i wish if every copied map get reproted by a user and staff willl take it down

Do you really think they have the time and capacity to go after every copied map and the people that made the copies? Going after map copies has never been a serious priority at all and it won't realistically be in the future

Site reports are highly unreliable and completely pointless to use as well


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Re: Stealing maps?

Postby mrblake213 » 17 September 2018, 04:03

First, it's the map owner's fault if the map was open sourced and someone copied it.

Second, there are currently no rules about copying other map designs.
I think it would be hard for a staff to determine if a map was really copied since the map editor tools is limited, some mapmakers can duplicate pre-existed designs without knowing it.
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Re: Stealing maps?

Postby phsc » 17 September 2018, 19:07

mrblake213 wrote:First, it's the map owner's fault if the map was open sourced and someone copied it.

Second, there are currently no rules about copying other map designs.
I think it would be hard for a staff to determine if a map was really copied since the map editor tools is limited, some mapmakers can duplicate pre-existed designs without knowing it.

yeah, but in paul308-base case... he didnt! and now the copy is being played more than the original

and the second point is true, but then, its exactly the same thing, same shapes, same stuff at the same area, with a few extra modded guns
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Re: Stealing maps?

Postby Bear855 » 18 September 2018, 14:12

I think it's remake ._.
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Re: Stealing maps?

Postby artichokecat » 19 September 2018, 03:35

I think as long as credit is given and the map was open sourced / in public domain it is fine.
I like edits if they do something to improve or change the map. 1:1 copying is pretty pointless.
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Re: Stealing maps?

Postby WowSuchDoge » 8 November 2018, 16:59

Sword Gem's map clearly says in the description that his map is a copy.
I dont see the problem here.
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Re: Stealing maps?

Postby ReversedEdges » 14 November 2018, 14:46

It's the original owner's fault for releasing the source to public, he could think of bad scenarios before doing that.
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Re: Stealing maps?

Postby darkstar 1 » 14 November 2018, 17:00

ReversedEdges wrote:It's the original owner's fault for releasing the source to public, he could think of bad scenarios before doing that.

Too bad that there are people who actually recreate the whole map without it being open sourced
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