Dialogue Changes

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Yes, dialogue would be better if these changes were made.
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No, I don't have a problem with it.
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Maybe. It's not that big of a problem, but it could still help.
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Dialogue Changes

Postby Starwars7 » 30 June 2017, 15:50

One thing that really annoys me about the level editor is that you can't use the apostrophe ( the symbol ' ), making it difficult to get the right dialogue. I know most people probably don't care at all, but I write, so my dialogue has to be grammatically correct unless I am feeling too lazy.

Another thing that annoys me is that when your string of dialogue is too long, it is cut off instead of being moved down a line like when you write a post in the forum. I realize you can just have a trigger make two dialogue things at once to fix that, but you need the right length to make it look better, and not just jumping halfway to the other side of the screen. Also, what if the Civil Security or the Battlesuit AI is saying it? Then, you can't make two dialogue functions, because your dialogue will be interrupted by "Battlesuit AI:".
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Re: Dialogue Changes

Postby GiraRay » 5 August 2017, 19:31

I absolutely agree. I hate that you cannot use apostrophes and other symbols which make your dialogue look better.

I had an idea while reading this:
In the dialogue trigger option, you can pick another option for parameter 'B'. This option will open a popup box (like the HEX color option), which would allow you to create a text like the "Battlesuit AI" texts and might also (if possible) have the use of variables (to make custom characters).

In other words, you can configure who is presenting the dialogue, what color their names will be and what color the text itself will be. FOR EXAMPLE:
Default dialogue: "Battlesuit AI: Hello world!"
Configured dialogue: "Stranger: Hello world!"

This would grant you a better and more effective storytelling method.
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Re: Dialogue Changes

Postby lrv » 7 August 2017, 17:04

I completly Agree, it is really annoying having wrong grammer, becasue aposthrophes are missing.
Note: If you took that Battlesuit Ai thingy out of my campaign the reason is that that Usurpation Soldiers have internal communicators with speech disorters, so enemies don't understand what they are saying. CS doesn't have those disorters. But it is still annoying.
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Re: Dialogue Changes

Postby Starwars7 » 13 August 2017, 03:58

GiraRay wrote:I absolutely agree. I hate that you cannot use apostrophes and other symbols which make your dialogue look better.

I had an idea while reading this:
In the dialogue trigger option, you can pick another option for parameter 'B'. This option will open a popup box (like the HEX color option), which would allow you to create a text like the "Battlesuit AI" texts and might also (if possible) have the use of variables (to make custom characters).

In other words, you can configure who is presenting the dialogue, what color their names will be and what color the text itself will be. FOR EXAMPLE:
Default dialogue: "Battlesuit AI: Hello world!"
Configured dialogue: "Stranger: Hello world!"

This would grant you a better and more effective storytelling method.


Yeah. Default text options look so much better due to the two-color thing. Meanwhile, this is what I have to make do with:

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CS-Beast: After I infiltrate the base, you will help me destroy it. Wheels up in 10. (Taken from Invasion 8: The Briefing" in the original series.)


Not to mention, there's only so many colors you can actually see against PB2 backgrounds, so the two-color dialogue would make it easier to see that there is, in fact, any dialogue at all. For example, which jumps out at you more:

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Starwars7: This...

Starwars7: Or this?


Maybe also add font size to a certain extent, to indicate whispering. You can't tell the difference between regular dialogue and whispering, otherwise.

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You can almost see the volume, can't you?


There would need to be limits, though. This is why:

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Starwars7: Can you see this?
Starwars7: What about this?
Starwars7: This?
Starwars7: How about this one?
Starwars7: If you can't see this, you need glasses.
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Re: Dialogue Changes

Postby Hikarikaze » 30 September 2017, 22:39

Apostrophes don't affect grammar unless you mess up word order. Here, not having an apostrophe isn't an issue of grammar but an issue of the tone in dialogue. It's next to impossible to establish more human dialogue because contractions can't be made to mimic a more general, conversational, and informal mode of speech. Bad for establishing characters that aren't robots unless you have one that talks in a robotic fashion

I find it strange how the old level editor allowed apostrophes but the new one doesn't.
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Re: Dialogue Changes

Postby tehswordninja » 8 October 2017, 16:06

There should definitely be support for more symbols. It'd be nice if it could even support messed up text or different fonts.
who needs a PB2.5 release date, anyways?
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