zakrzew wrote:HI i just wanted to show you one problem connected with current pp system (It probably may happen in some other similar systems).
Well lately (since month?) ranked matches on eu are extremely dead. I know u can say that generally (in all servers) there aren't many ranked matches on(idk how about cali but probably it's the same). But the difference between eu and wash is surprisingly big. Everyday im on wash ranked i can see many people who can change my ppp . On the other hand on eu there is almost noone (like sometimes there's just nobody sometimes 1-2 players a day) . The problem is suddently my ping on evenings on wash started to be 180-200 so i can get ppp only on eu.
Somewhen i really liked the idea that "better" player gives u more pp/ppp, or player with amount of pp/ppp simmilar to yours gives you more etc.. , but now it just makes impossible for people from eu who can't play on wash to have high amount of ppp/pp.
I didn't show here how the new system could look like ,but i guess in ranking system this is something that shouldn't happen.I think i will try to think about this later becouse now i need to go sleep
Now i can only watch myself loosin 1st place dem i cri :'c
The Awakening wrote:about 300-400 everyday compare it to Wash witch would be around 72-85 on average the max players I have seen in E.U. Is about 40, after we get done with placing player in just maybe 1-2 servers we can focus more on PP.
monkeyman2535 wrote:Jesus balls my eyes are drowning in seas of text in this thread...
monkeyman2535 wrote:throw the first version out.
master derk300 wrote:1) Look the top 100 players almost all are random people who i have never seen on this game and if i have played with them they are probably bad and i dont remember people who are bad srry
master derk300 wrote:3) Well i see it unfair to play agaisnt people who just spam their weapons and doesnt matter if you are good or bad u will die if you are in a bad spot is that simple dude. Noobs spamming can actually beat any kind of skill player.
spirit9871 wrote: This is why Phase I is still vital. More maps could have possibly given more to offer to new players, but it's hard starting them up, considering that we don't have a lot of players. So right now, we're facing this double-edged sword also.
Oh no! I can't farm in PP-based system that easily! I should cry about this in every topic so the ranking system would be reverted back to the most exploitable one, and then I'll farm my way to the top!
artichokecat wrote:spirit9871 wrote: This is why Phase I is still vital. More maps could have possibly given more to offer to new players, but it's hard starting them up, considering that we don't have a lot of players. So right now, we're facing this double-edged sword also.
Yes. The solution is to make new, better maps without these flaws of places where people can camp and be invincible, or maps where if you dont start off with a gun and ur very doomed
(i'm thinking of a particular map but I wont name names)
spirit9871 wrote:That's actually not what I meant; I meant to say that we should be utilizing pre-existing maps into the servers to increase variety. We don't really need new maps to be fair; there's so many of them in storage that making more would be a waste of time.
NNC wrote:"KISS" can also be un-abbreviated as "keep it simple & stupid"
NNC wrote:Various ramblings about farmers
The Murk wrote:[i][color=#800080]Great idea, Spirit. You're doing terrific bro, I'm proud.
Side-note: Mingo and I have decided that once we reach a definite conclusion or a certain amount of weeks in discussing this matter, we will make a Revivalist video compiling all the information everyone has shared (yes, this includes certain member replies quoted in the video as well). So that's something to look forward to once we're done discussing this matter.
The Murk wrote:I'm sorry Spirit, but being a revivalist has nothing to do with publicity. It isn't to promote yourself, but the motion. So if anything I say is on it plsh censor my name out. I want the revivalist rewarded, not the individuals.
Sniper J wrote:Very interesting ideas but tbh, there is no perfect ranking system. Everyone we'll ever come up with will have at least one flaw and that flaw will make people complain. I hate every system that there has been since the first one. It's difficult to move up in the Top 100 because you can only gain a certain amount and that amount is based off your PPP which is hard to get since no one has any, people don't have enough, or people with PPP are inactive. It's honestly stupid that people care so much about a ranking system so stupid. I'm hoping that the ranking system will be different for PB2.5.
It's a somewhat-common variation, and, clever or not, it works, while over-simplification isn't a good thing sometimes.monkeyman2535 wrote:Not clever
Pffft. How about the "single team gang", when few players from the top go to a TDM match just to make a 5-7 players team and then to rekt everyone, not allowing their enemies to get a single gun? Yes, that's not exactly farming, but stll a completely unfair tactic. You should be able to understand who am I reffering to.monkeyman2535 wrote:this horrible specter of oh-so-terrifying farmers was not really that much of an issue
Maybe that's because of a number of security updates, which were released around the same time as PP?monkeyman2535 wrote:I don't even remember anyone being conspicuously banned for farming until the PP system.
Sniper J wrote:When PP was implemented, was probably when the game started declining. I feel as though that the downwards spiral that the game has been set on is a direct result of the PP system. Peope got fed up with the system because it's too difficult to figure out and there's so many flaws with it, it's not even funny. The term "PP woman of the night" never existed until PP and people never fought over they old system because it was kill based and you don't lose kills.
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