Top quality maps of PB2.

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Top quality maps of PB2.

Postby Jason Eden » 13 April 2019, 20:42

I would like to know if there are top quality maps in PB2 I haven't noticed yet. I'm looking for maps that are perfectly balanced between the quality of wall placement and the quality of backgrounds. Amount and types of triggers used in the map don't matter (but their presence would be a plus), as well as the map specification/gamemode. Important note however would be the lack of FPS drops (lag) and other technical issues and the map must be somewhat entertaining. If you know any maps that match these requirements, please post them here.

Here is my short list of maps I found. Not going to mention my own maps because it might trigger some angry children who follow me all the time seeking my attention. Anyway, here they are:

"Fakewar - Valley" by Mrnat444

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Map ID: mrnat444-war
Map description: A modernized Trench Warfare, focused on simplicity and "realism".
Map Page Link: https://www.plazmaburst2.com/index.php? ... &id=932597
Map Demo Link: https://www.plazmaburst2.com/index.php? ... nat444-war


"Protector" by Mrnat444

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Map ID: mrnat444-guard
Map description: A lone Protector must defend the Keeper from six mercenaries.
Map Page Link: https://www.plazmaburst2.com/index.php? ... &id=924392
Map Demo Link: https://www.plazmaburst2.com/index.php? ... t444-guard


"Monochrome" by Lonewolf56

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Map ID: lonewolf56-monochrome
Map description: A monochromatic image consists of varying tones of only one color.
Map Page Link: https://www.plazmaburst2.com/index.php? ... &id=895301
Map Demo Link: https://www.plazmaburst2.com/index.php? ... monochrome


"A Space Rescue" by Zzninjazz

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Map ID: zzninjazz-asrprt1
Map description: July 3 2311, the (Alpha Proliferative Hunter)APH Phobos ship mysteriously vanished and lost communication with the 6 other ships of Lunaria with unclear reasons. The (Intergalactic Military Operations) US-IMO Kratos was able to detect Phobos 4 months later via proximity radar for about thousands of kilometers away, The US-IMO Kratos sends a highly trained USDASMarine to investigate. As the (US Space Corvette)USSC attempts to dock with the APH Phobos, the docking procedure wasnt active. It quickly becomes apparent that the APH Phobos was attacked.
Map Page Link: https://www.plazmaburst2.com/index.php? ... &id=875812
Map Demo Link: https://www.plazmaburst2.com/index.php? ... zz-asrprt1


"Level 1" by Darkstar 1

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Map ID: darkstar 1-level 1
Map description: New map by Darkstar 1.
Map Page Link: https://www.plazmaburst2.com/index.php? ... &id=930004
Map Demo Link: https://www.plazmaburst2.com/index.php? ... -level%201


"Taiga" by Darkstar 1

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Map ID: darkstar 1-taiga
Map description: New map by Darkstar 1.
Map Page Link: https://www.plazmaburst2.com/index.php? ... %201-taiga
Map Demo Link: https://www.plazmaburst2.com/index.php? ... %201-taiga


"Futuristic Base" by Zzninjazz

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Map ID: zzninjazz-base
Map description: Based on the map ".:One Man Army:.", that Coop map was kinda a failure so I wanted to delete it but instead, I reused the whole map and renovated it and turned it into a beautiful futuristic base!
Map Page Link: https://www.plazmaburst2.com/index.php? ... &id=878195
Map Demo Link: https://www.plazmaburst2.com/index.php? ... njazz-base


"Nuclear" by Darkstar 1

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Map ID: darkstar 1-nuclear
Map description: 4x4 battle map.
Map Page Link: https://www.plazmaburst2.com/index.php? ... &id=851721
Map Demo Link: https://www.plazmaburst2.com/index.php? ... 01-nuclear


"Eyrie" by Ditzy

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Map ID: ditzy-eyrie
Map description: High castle on the mountain overlooks all below.
Map Page Link: https://www.plazmaburst2.com/index.php? ... &id=936259
Map Demo Link: https://www.plazmaburst2.com/index.php? ... itzy-eyrie
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Re: Top quality maps of PB2.

Postby Incompetence » 14 April 2019, 01:22

Jason Eden wrote:I would like to know if there are top quality maps in PB2 I haven't noticed yet. I'm looking for maps that are perfectly balanced between the quality of wall placement and the quality of backgrounds. Amount and types of triggers used in the map don't matter (but their presence would be a plus), as well as the map specification/gamemode. Important note however would be the lack of FPS drops (lag) and other technical issues and the map must be somewhat entertaining. If you know any maps that match these requirements, please post them here.

how do you measure quality in regards to this list if quality itself is subjective and measured differently with different criteria for every person?

also fps drops occur differently for other people. fps may drop for one person but be stable for another. how can this requirement work?
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Re: Top quality maps of PB2.

Postby AnnieFushi » 14 April 2019, 01:31

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Re: Top quality maps of PB2.

Postby Jason Eden » 14 April 2019, 10:08

Incompetence wrote:how do you measure quality in regards to this list if quality itself is subjective and measured differently with different criteria for every person?

also fps drops occur differently for other people. fps may drop for one person but be stable for another. how can this requirement work?

I've checked your maps. They are definitely not top quality. No wonder you cannot distinguish low quality maps from high quality maps. You lack proper experience. Without proper experience your judgement won't be correct. Anyway, it would be really hard to explain for me, so I'll just go the easy way - just ask the community members (maybe your friends) if they consider those maps in OP high quality or low quality, and well, after they answer, waste their time talking about how beauty and quality are subjective when they are actually not. I do not expect you to understand or accept such answer. However, if you still need proper explanation, try asking Mrnat444, Ditzy or Lonewolf56. They might be capable of answering your questions in the most understandable way. They are the top map makers of this community afterall. They have proper experience, time and English skills to let you understand their words.

As for the lag question, this is the part of official PB2 approval requirements. Approved maps must be optimized for all users, including users who have weak PCs. Approved maps are supposed to represent the whole map making community and the game itself. So they are supposed to be the examples of high quality acceptable maps. By acceptable maps I also mean maps that have no technical issues such as FPS drops. http://prntscr.com/nbpi0b
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Re: Top quality maps of PB2.

Postby Incompetence » 14 April 2019, 10:53

Jason Eden wrote:I've checked your maps. They are definitely not top quality. No wonder you cannot distinguish low quality maps from high quality maps.

???

you do realize the maps I have aren't even my own, right? they're remakes.

reading is pretty hard though, i get it. anyways now, answer my first question since i asked nicely
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Re: Top quality maps of PB2.

Postby Jason Eden » 14 April 2019, 11:08

Incompetence wrote:???

you do realize the maps I have aren't even my own, right? they're remakes.

reading is pretty hard though, i get it. anyways now, answer my first question since i asked nicely

I don't care if they are remakes or not. Your name is in the ID and that's what tells me they are yours. Remakes are also a good demonstration of your designing skills, so even with your logic, they are still partially yours.

As for answering your first question, I already answered it. I have no time or ability to explain complicated mechanics behind words "beauty" or "quality". I tried to explain it to other people a few times, and it all ended up them telling how everything is subjective. God, I so hate it when people are not capable of understanding something objective and to make things simplier for them they just call them subjective. Maybe if I had better English and wider terminology I could write a few pages of text explaining this stuff, but I don't. And doing it now with my current explanation skills won't do any progress as I already said. Go to Mrnat444, Ditzy or Lonewolf56 for the desired answers.
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Re: Top quality maps of PB2.

Postby Incompetence » 14 April 2019, 16:40

Jason Eden wrote:I don't care if they are remakes or not.

that's convenient since if you did, you would've noticed you were wrong in the first place.

Jason Eden wrote:Your name is in the ID and that's what tells me they are yours.

yeah, that's clearly not how ownership of something works. if I recreate one of your maps, that doesn't magically make it mine. whatever complaints you have towards those maps isn't due to me because I never designed the map layout and gameplay of it in the first place so what about it is mine other than my name being attached to it?

by the way, i suggest you stick to your own words: viewtopic.php?f=167&t=22213&p=198894#p198894

Jason Eden wrote:I have no time or ability to explain complicated mechanics behind words "beauty" or "quality"

ever wonder that these "mechanics" are complicated because they don't work the same for everybody? stop trying to make a subjective criteria objective, otherwise be prepared to answer how it's possible to do such a thing and more importantly, why you're doing it

Jason Eden wrote:Go to Mrnat444, Ditzy or Lonewolf56 for the desired answers.

i asked you the question so you answer me, i shouldn't have to rely on a third person for that. if i asked them the question, i'd have an answer from them by now. why should I ask them in the first place first of all? because they're good? that makes you bad compared to them by that simple virtue so why should anyone contribute to your list if your opinion isn't of equal value to that of the same people you idolize?

oh wait, you gave a 5/10 once to ditzy for whatever reason yet i should get my desired answers from someone you can't decide is good or bad: viewtopic.php?f=167&t=22516&p=200436#p200436

you keep on idolizing these mapmakers like gods even though you yourself clearly show the contrary by using your inconsistent standards as a measuring stick
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Re: Top quality maps of PB2.

Postby Resi » 14 April 2019, 19:35

Jason Eden wrote:
Incompetence wrote:how do you measure quality in regards to this list if quality itself is subjective and measured differently with different criteria for every person?

I've checked your maps. They are definitely not top quality. No wonder you cannot distinguish low quality maps from high quality maps. You lack proper experience.


Uhhh he asked a question dude.
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Re: Top quality maps of PB2.

Postby wreak » 15 April 2019, 01:11

Wish I could make maps like these. I have not really made serious maps in a long while since it would hurt my LDR, maybe if I kept making maps I might have something similar. The quality in these maps are incredible and it's a shame that they don't have the recognition it deserves.
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Re: Top quality maps of PB2.

Postby Resi » 15 April 2019, 01:47

wreak wrote:since it would hurt my LDR


First you need to stop caring about LDR. Express your creativity and interact with people to learn. The LDR is worthless.
phsc wrote:WHY ARE YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT REALISM IN A FUTURISTIC 2D FLASH SCROLL SHOOTER THAT HAS ALIENS AND UNREALISTIC UNHOLDABLE GUNS AND REGENERATION AND MANY OTHER THINGS, LOSTMYDOLLAR/JASON EDEN PLEASE UNDERSTAND THIS IS NOT A REALISTIC GAME AND STOP TRYING TO TURN IT INTO ONE BECAUSE IT WONT
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Re: Top quality maps of PB2.

Postby mrblake213 » 15 April 2019, 03:03

Resi wrote:First you need to stop caring about LDR. Express your creativity and interact with people to learn. The LDR is worthless.


Yeah, I used to care about my LDr before since it would lessen my rank and would have nothing to boast.
but I realized that it stopped me from creating maps I wanted to make and thus leaving me a lower LDr than before.
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Re: Top quality maps of PB2.

Postby 49er » 15 April 2019, 05:32

cock-block is a pretty good map tbh
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Re: Top quality maps of PB2.

Postby Jason Eden » 15 September 2019, 00:08

OP has been updated with new maps:

"Taiga" by Darkstar 1

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Map ID: darkstar 1-taiga
Map description: New map by Darkstar 1.
Map Page Link: https://www.plazmaburst2.com/index.php? ... %201-taiga
Map Demo Link: https://www.plazmaburst2.com/index.php? ... %201-taiga


"Futuristic Base" by Zzninjazz

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Map ID: zzninjazz-base
Map description: Based on the map ".:One Man Army:.", that Coop map was kinda a failure so I wanted to delete it but instead, I reused the whole map and renovated it and turned it into a beautiful futuristic base!
Map Page Link: https://www.plazmaburst2.com/index.php? ... &id=878195
Map Demo Link: https://www.plazmaburst2.com/index.php? ... njazz-base


"Nuclear" by Darkstar 1

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Map ID: darkstar 1-nuclear
Map description: 4x4 battle map.
Map Page Link: https://www.plazmaburst2.com/index.php? ... &id=851721
Map Demo Link: https://www.plazmaburst2.com/index.php? ... 01-nuclear


"Eyrie" by Ditzy

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Map ID: ditzy-eyrie
Map description: High castle on the mountain overlooks all below.
Map Page Link: https://www.plazmaburst2.com/index.php? ... &id=936259
Map Demo Link: https://www.plazmaburst2.com/index.php? ... itzy-eyrie
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