Are the protagonists also bad guys?

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Are the protagonists also bad guys?

Postby Unfairness » 4 April 2018, 04:24

Ive been continuing the Campaign until Ive just realized
Why are we killing CS?

They are the ones protecting Earth from Usurps. We are stopping the invasion via Time Machine. But what is the purpose of attacking them? He could just ask for help.

Are the CS and C-9 enemies to each other?
Does the Marine and Noir doesnt know whats going on in Earth ever since they were sent to Mars?
Definitely not DueK.
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Re: Are the protagonists also bad guys?

Postby Ayano » 4 April 2018, 05:17

Maybe the CS just confirms as the Marine as an Unknown Hostile torwards them so its like Shoot on sight.
Who knows maybe the marine even landed on some sort of no Limits zone which kinda caused the CS to shoot them.
and maybe the Marine has no choice but to kill the CS so that he may complete his task and somewhat serve as self defense.
so basically its like this :
The enemy of my enemy is still my enemy lol.
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Re: Are the protagonists also bad guys?

Postby lostmydollar » 4 April 2018, 12:56

maybe cs are just like the soldiers of the combine in half life 2. you know protecting the empire with evil guys in charge
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Re: Are the protagonists also bad guys?

Postby JayaRaya » 4 April 2018, 14:22

Probably, they are being chased by time. As they will try best to reach the time machine as soon as possible, afraid that it might possibly get destroyed by the usurpations. Or even worse, being used by them. (As we seen some of the Usurpation Destroyers on the facility at level 41, which where the time machine being in it...)

So they pretty much have no choice but to push forward using any methods necesary to reach the time machine in time. And like what Ayano said, the CS at that time doesn't know what Marine & Noir is. And might confirm them as an unknown hostile threat.

Also, it might be a silly decision for Marine & Noir to reveal themself to the CS on their true goal & identity. As the CS had no clue & evidences at all about them. (Becuase they come from the future...)

For example :

- Marine : Don't shoot! I'm from the future!
- CS lite 1 : Dude, you heard what this guy said ?
- CS lite 2 : Impossible!
- CS lite 3 : His probably some crazy dude who got brainwashed by the aliens xD
- Marine : NO it's True! I'm come to save the humanity!
- CS heavy : His crazy alright, let's just capture it & take him to the base.

* Marine being captured & being interogated, possibly become a experiment subject in the CS laboratory facility or being taken away to the mental hospital *
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Re: Are the protagonists also bad guys?

Postby lostmydollar » 4 April 2018, 16:06

JayaRaya wrote:Probably, they are being chased by time. As they will try best to reach the time machine as soon as possible, afraid that it might possibly get destroyed by the usurpations. Or even worse, being used by them. (As we seen some of the Usurpation Destroyers on the facility at level 41, which where the time machine being in it...)

So they pretty much have no choice but to push forward using any methods necesary to reach the time machine in time. And like what Ayano said, the CS at that time doesn't know what Marine & Noir is. And might confirm them as an unknown hostile threat.

this makes sense. but even so, this isn't the excuse to kill those soldiers. let's say CSs are good guys, protecting earth, saving citizens and so on. why can't marine use non-lethal weapons to break through? he has access to energy rifles, cannon that can launch giant green balls of plasma and defibrillator that can save one's life with just one injection no matter how big the wound is. this would mean that there is obviously some weapon that can just paralyze target without killing or injuring it, even armored. why can't he use that? this makes me think protagonists are actually bad guys even though their goal is to help the mankind
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Re: Are the protagonists also bad guys?

Postby Ghost Killer823 » 5 April 2018, 19:51

I guess when they get to the time machine, wouldn't the crimes they had done on Earth no longer exist? If so, then it's not a big deal of why him and Noir Lime eliminated the protectors of Earth (Citizen Security). They're not the real threat they are trying to stop, obviously.
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Re: Are the protagonists also bad guys?

Postby darkstar 1 » 5 April 2018, 22:26

What is good and what is bad? Their goal might look good to their own faction, but bad to others. Depends on what faction you support.

Also, time traveling might be an illegal action as it could mess up a lot of things, that might be why the CS acts hostile towards Marine and Noir Lime (and maybe Proxy was trying to build a time travel device as well?)
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Re: Are the protagonists also bad guys?

Postby Unfairness » 6 April 2018, 01:38

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darkstar 1 wrote:What is good and what is bad? Their goal might look good to their own action, but bad to others. Depends on what faction you support.

Also, time traveling might be an illegal action as it could mess up a lot of things, that might be why the CS acts hostile towards Marine and Noir Lime (and maybe Proxy was trying to build a time travel device as well?)


Well, Proxy does know the project that C-9 launched. Probably she is a spy.


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JayaRaya wrote:Probably, they are being chased by time. As they will try best to reach the time machine as soon as possible, afraid that it might possibly get destroyed by the usurpations. Or even worse, being used by them. (As we seen some of the Usurpation Destroyers on the facility at level 41, which where the time machine being in it...)

So they pretty much have no choice but to push forward using any methods necesary to reach the time machine in time. And like what Ayano said, the CS at that time doesn't know what Marine & Noir is. And might confirm them as an unknown hostile threat.

Also, it might be a silly decision for Marine & Noir to reveal themself to the CS on their true goal & identity. As the CS had no clue & evidences at all about them. (Becuase they come from the future...)


Possibly this
Definitely not DueK.
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Re: Are the protagonists also bad guys?

Postby KARL SERG » 6 April 2018, 12:03

The Marine's purpose is to get to the right timeline. The CS are just an obstacle to his Goal.
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Re: Are the protagonists also bad guys?

Postby mister mayhem » 11 April 2018, 08:54

In PB:FttP the marine and Noir shot up everyone guarding the human's super secret base. Then the aliens invaded and took over since there was no one left to stop them. Of course, the humans counter attacked but the aliens used the time travel portal thingy to go back to 10,000 BC to enslave Egypt and build the pyramids. Some civil security continued to rebel against the alien overlords, but it was too much. Now the Marine and co. is the only hope left but they got lost in the future where aliens and wife hating are everywhere and everything. They committed some murder and grand theft (PB2) to get back to the portal so they can set things right but who knows where it sends them next. (PB3)

Anyways what I just typed was a load of baloney and only semi serious.
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Re: Are the protagonists also bad guys?

Postby Agent Delta » 14 April 2018, 23:44

One thing people should note that they came from the past to the future by mistake.So the CS might be attacking them because something C-9 did that may have put earth in danger after they left
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Re: Are the protagonists also bad guys?

Postby DoomWrath » 22 April 2018, 22:15

Almost the entire of PB2's campaign seems to take place in one small area, potentially a government or military facility, which is housing the time machine that the Marine needs to get to. Whether he's friendly or not, the CS troops guarding the place aren't going to just let some random dude waltz in and mess with the secure facility, especially during an alien invasion.
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