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Re: this doesnt make any sense.

Postby Hikarikaze » 9 November 2015, 02:47

Fiery_Blade wrote:Not sure I could call a 5 minute sniper map a "good map."
It's just popular and that's about it.

The amount of time spent making a map doesn't necessarily denote how good the map is, because it's a personal opinion and nothing more.

A map made in 1 minute may be phenomenal to me, but a map made in 3 days might be straight up terrible in my opinion. Same applies when vice versa.

On-topic (assuming my response above isn't), I agree with this:
MoseSnYpEr21 wrote:i think even if inactive the maps should transfer

As long as there's some new names out in the map-making community and as long as there's some new and interesting maps out there to try out (without most of them being buried by the same maps over and over again ofc), I'm fine with transferring all of the maps. There's quite a bit of great classic maps still out there, and it'd be great if PB2.5 had them, just for old memories' sake.
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Re: this doesnt make any sense.

Postby The Demian » 9 November 2015, 14:59

Fiery_Blade wrote:kdendidn'tknowamsry

k am gonna go make a sniper map on this alt and get super famous xdddddd

Very Mature. 10/10, examplar mod, keep it like that.

No, stryde-sniper is overrated, time to inovate at least a little.

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Re: this doesnt make any sense.

Postby Terabrion » 9 November 2015, 17:08

The Demian wrote:
Fiery_Blade wrote:kdendidn'tknowamsry

k am gonna go make a sniper map on this alt and get super famous xdddddd

Very Mature. 10/10, examplar mod, keep it like that.

No, stryde-sniper is overrated, time to inovate at least a little.

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Re: this doesnt make any sense.

Postby ilijah999 » 9 November 2015, 18:13

See, yes stryde sniper is a good map. But its been overused. I dont want people to go from pb2 to pb2.5 playing the SAME maps. That would ruin PB2.5 and make it seem like PB2.5 is PB2.

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Re: this doesnt make any sense.

Postby Green eyed Demon » 9 November 2015, 18:16

ilijah999 wrote:See, yes stryde sniper is a good map. But its been overused. I dont want people to go from pb2 to pb2.5 playing the SAME maps. That would ruin PB2.5 and make it seem like PB2.5 is PB2.


Trust me,even with stryde-sniper on PB2.5,people will NOT only play that map because from what I've seen,levels will be a lot more creative,let's hope Eric manages to get slopes into the game and there you have another great level editing element

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Re: this doesnt make any sense.

Postby ilijah999 » 9 November 2015, 18:29

Trust me,even with stryde-sniper on PB2.5,people will NOT only play that map because from what I've seen,levels will be a lot more creative,let's hope Eric manages to get slopes into the game and there you have another great level editing element


I hope so...I could MUCH more creative maps with slopes...

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Re: this doesnt make any sense.

Postby Krutz » 9 November 2015, 20:35

i personally think [ stryde-sniper ] shouldn't be just ignored in pb2.5 just because it was a popular map in pb2

I understand that people don't like the fact that [ stryde-sniper ] is extremely popular and that it "hogs" the players who could be trying new maps, or whatever the case may be

but the suggested solutions to the "excessive popularity" of [ stryde-sniper ] are just plain foolish:

[ stryde-sniper ] needs to be anchored in pb2 and not continue into pb2.5
or
[ stryde-sniper ] needs to be deleted, so players who frequently played in that map are forced to play in new maps

I think the fact that "solutions" even exist for a map made by a normal player is completely silly because I don't see [ stryde-sniper ] as a "problem"

In my opinion, i think the map is excellent, but I don't like playing in it. However, since people seem to like it quite a lot (and I still like the map), I would definitely like to see it in PB2.5.

It's not the players' (who play in the map) faults that they play a map that they like, so punishing them is ridiculous. It's not their faults that there are so few people playing the game for there to be enough players who happen to NOT like the map

This is probably disregarded by most, but executing either solutions would just throw stryde's dedication into the trash. he does not need to be punished because he made a popular map

If I had an insanely popular map, I wouldn't want some dude to just say "hey, let's delete krutz's friggin map, it's too damn popular" and for people to actually carry out actions parallel with that form of behavior

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Re: this doesnt make any sense.

Postby DoomWrath » 9 November 2015, 20:44

I think it should not be treated any different from any other map. On top of that, I think that the current approved maps should not be approved in PB2.5 - it's a new game, why keep the stale maps around and approved.

That's if map approvals will even work on the same system as they do in PB2. Honestly it's far too early to even be having this type of conversation.
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Re: this doesnt make any sense.

Postby exotic__ » 9 November 2015, 23:25

Its never to early for anything Mr. Doomwrath.

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Re: this doesnt make any sense.

Postby ELITE ANDROID » 10 November 2015, 02:47

DoomWrath wrote:I think it should not be treated any different from any other map. On top of that, I think that the current approved maps should not be approved in PB2.5 - it's a new game, why keep the stale maps around and approved.

That's if map approvals will even work on the same system as they do in PB2. Honestly it's far too early to even be having this type of conversation.



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Re: this doesnt make any sense.

Postby xChakra » 10 November 2015, 19:51

In all honesty, pixelbyte, if the majority out rules your opinion, then... who cares? They like what maps they like, the desire to play this is FED upon new players, as obviously they enjoy this map more than anything else. This community isn't dying because of the map selection, it's dying because it's poorly managed, advertised, negative, and its old. Games don't last forever, this has very out-lived its purpose, and it's still what I call, alive.
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Re: this doesnt make any sense.

Postby ilijah999 » 10 November 2015, 20:54

See if PB2.5 does allow people to export there maps, I would hope they would UPDATE it with some new feature.

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Re: this doesnt make any sense.

Postby Fiery_Blade » 11 November 2015, 00:09

As long as it doesn't become so commonly played as it is right now, then we're good, imo.




Offtopic: sorry about my offtopicness, that is what you get when you add one very tired tehswordninja and a few do its from the staff team.

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Re: this doesnt make any sense.

Postby pixelbyte » 11 November 2015, 00:14

I shouldve never posted that messgae, cuz now i caused drama.

xChakra wrote:In all honesty, pixelbyte, if the majority out rules your opinion, then... who cares? They like what maps they like, the desire to play this is FED upon new players, as obviously they enjoy this map more than anything else. This community isn't dying because of the map selection, it's dying because it's poorly managed, advertised, negative, and its old. Games don't last forever, this has very out-lived its purpose, and it's still what I call, alive.
Be happy with what you got.


No clue what your talking about.

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Re: this doesnt make any sense.

Postby Terabrion » 11 November 2015, 00:22

[quote="pixelbyte"]I shouldve never posted that messgae, cuz now i caused drama.
A discussion is not drama, get your facts right...
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Re: this doesnt make any sense.

Postby pixelbyte » 11 November 2015, 00:41

Terabrion wrote:
pixelbyte wrote:I shouldve never posted that messgae, cuz now i caused drama.

A discussion is not drama, get your facts right...


Looks like drama.

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Re: this doesnt make any sense.

Postby ilijah999 » 11 November 2015, 00:47

Pixel this is a DISCUSSION. Drama is something like...OMG....PIXEL LIKE GUYS (Just an example.) And then people get all crazy over it. DRAMA. This discussion about PB2.5 is not drama. Its very good talk sir.

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Re: this doesnt make any sense.

Postby pixelbyte » 11 November 2015, 00:56

ilijah999 wrote:Pixel this is a DISCUSSION. Drama is something like...OMG....PIXEL LIKE GUYS (Just an example.) And then people get all crazy over it. DRAMA. This discussion about PB2.5 is not drama. Its very good talk sir.


Oh okay.

cuz this is a discussion about stryde-sniper not pb2.5 but k

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Re: this doesnt make any sense.

Postby xChakra » 11 November 2015, 01:36

The definition of Drama has been lost in all the adjectives leading up to such.
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Re: this doesnt make any sense.

Postby Dark1791 » 11 November 2015, 02:29

God damn, xChakra has the right idea. No one takes 'drama' to mean anything here anymore. Like 'racism' its become a meme used to discredit anything percieved to be negetive or controversial.

Regarding the topic: Stryde sniper shouldn't be approved. Nowadays approved maps should be complicated, decorated and fun. Stryde sniper is a product of the old days where maps were lower quality. It definitely shouldn't be approved in 2.5 if anything.
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